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thoughts on “Jesus Loves You…” by Craig Gross and Jason Harper – PART 3
Feb 13th
I find myself wanting to advocate justice for the hurting and pronouncing judgment on the religious. in this, i have become the very thing i despise… I am quick to offer grace to the rebellious and wayward. but i am slow in offering to the religious, if i offer it at all. yet i must.
I see this… in me.
We are never going to be friends or hang out with everyone we come across… some people just shouldn’t be together – whether because of past history, wrongs committed against each other, just can’t get along, or whatever else; there are people in my life that I just needed to leave behind and break relationship with and vice versa for one reason or another, and I would imagine that is the case in almost everyone’s life…
… but if you are a Christian, how do we still go in Christ’s commands to love God, your neighbor, your enemy, your brothers and sisters in Christ?
As much as I have tried to orient myself to live a life of grace and love towards people, I have had very little tolerance for those who are judgmental, or those who spend hours upon hours writing or speaking about how the culture around us is the biggest problem in life, how America should be changed back to a Christian nation (whatever that means) or what movies/TV shows/books Christians should see/read, or what author/pastor/church member are heretics, who put their trust in changing people and the culture around them through politics and laws – or who inevitably link Christianity to being an American/being a Republican, etc…
So, I just aired my “crap” list and nullified my whole message, huh?
And there’s the point… we all do this. That list is still probably a short list of those I judge or have judged with an un-Christlike heart and mind… and I am wrong - I am the very thing that I dislike! “We” are wrong. It’s not that we shouldn’t discern against things we shouldn’t watch, or desire to see a Nation (or every Nation if we are to take the “Great Commandment“) of people seek and respond to Christ’s love and in turn with His help, change those things that are not best for us in our lives (as Penn said – “If you think you have the Truth and don’t share it, how much do you hate me” to paraphrase).
As Christians…
Lindsay Lohan posing “similarly” to Jesus on new magizine cover…
Feb 12th
This article is from “omg! on Yahoo“…
Lindsay Lohan’s Controversial Cover Photo
posted by Lindsay Robertson – Thu Feb 11 2010, 1:49 PM PST
celebs: Lindsay Lohan
topics: Fashion Faux Pas
Lindsay Lohan covers Purple Terry Richardon/Purple magazineLindsay Lohan is never one to shy away from controversy and the attention that comes with it (remember her less-than-chaste Marilyn Monroe-esque photos in New York Magazine? Her very public spats with on-again, off-again girlfriend Samantha Ronson?). Now her cover for the French magazine, Purple, is drawing the contempt of some Christian critics.
The picture depicts Lohan as a Christ-like figure, draped in a white robe, posing with her arms outstretched, Crucifixion-style. And just in case anyone misses the blatantly obvious, hit-you-over-the-head visual reference to Jesus on the cross, Lohan wears a crown of thorns atop her platinum-blond extensions.
As is often the case when religious figures are depicted in popular media, the French magazine cover is already drawing fire from Christian thought-leaders.
Bill Donohue, head of the Catholic League, told Politics Daily: “Not only is the pose inappropriate, the timing is offensive.” (Catholicism’s most sacred season begins next Wednesday — Ash Wednesday — with the start of Lent, the annual period of pentinence and abstinence that leads up to the Easter celebration.)
Recently Lohan indirectly referred to Hinduism by Tweeting that she’s “all about Karma…what goes around comes around.”
“If she believes that, then it behooves her to apologize to Christians before it’s too late,” Donahue said, adding that she is “spiritually homeless” and “would benefit by converting to Christianity.”
Others simply criticize the magazine cover as an obvious grab at attention that is supposed to show Lindsay Lohan is some sort of celebrity martyr.
The photo, which was taken by the irreverent photographer Terry Richardson (no stranger to controversy himself), appears on the spring-summer 2010 cover of the magazine.
Offended? Blasphemous? Angry? Sad? Don’t care? No big deal? Compassionate?
… Why or Why not?
More important, what does Jesus think of it… offended/angered by the pose, or waiting for the hurting and the broken to return the love He has for them (for us)? or both? or neither? don’t know? don’t care?
other thoughts?
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thoughts on “Jesus Loves You…” by Craig Gross and Jason Harper – PART 2
Feb 11th
I find it interesting and completely hypocritical that some yell the loudest about this area of culture, all the while ignoring other blatant cultural atrocities. Why pick on this sin as opposed to others? I have never seen picket signs and petitions protesting overeating or gossip or adultery.
Most won’t find it too shocking to learn that the “area of culture” Craig is referring to here is the homosexual community. I think if we are honest, we could say that the Christian community as a whole has been mean, uncaring, unloving and quite un-Christlike towards the homosexual community – regardless of our differences or beliefs. I do think Craig is right in this, we have picked on this more than anything else (outside of the abortion issue) for awhile now. I too, have yet to see someone picket overeating, gossip, adultery, speaking truth without love, pride, etc… is that because those are less grievous in our “sin” ranking system?
There is a way to disagree (right now at least) and hold the views that we do without being unloving, disrespectful, hateful, etc… I believe we are called to be different in how we respond and treat people – I’m afraid we have credited the reactions of people too often to persecution or not liking our beliefs, and not enough to a response to the lack of respect and love we show to others. Sure, there are some that don’t like the beliefs that we hold from the Bible or don’t buy into God/Jesus… there will always be that. I’m just not sure it ever excuses us from treating others with respect and love, not with malice and prideful judgment as if we somehow merit more of God’s love than someone else… we’ve all been invited to a party, a life, that we did not earn no matter how well you think you live.
He said that i, as a pastor, would be more embraced by the porn industry than he would be at a church… ‘My world loved you more than your world loves me.’ sad, but true.
These two comments came from Ron Jeremy, the Porn King. Is there some truth to this? I think there is. Craig talks a lot about how skeptical those in the porn industry have been of him and the XXXChurch, but he has still found this to be more true in his world. They have been far more respectful, open to discussion, willing to share deep and personal information and take a look at Craig’s message of Jesus’ love and grace for them – than Ron has experienced with many Christians.
It is easy to group people as a whole, and I know many Christians/Churches who would welcome someone like Ron Jeremy in and be Jesus to him. And I know there will be some who want nothing to do with God or what Craig/XXXChurch are doing and saying. But since I follow Jesus, my focus is on our response as Christians to those who have not bought into the whole God/Jesus thing (for whatever reason).
Truly think about it… How would you respond if Ron Jeremy showed up to your church, small group, sunday school, home church, outreach event, singles group, etc…
Ok, so you think you can stomach it (as if that’s all we are called to do… stomach it…)
What if…
…President Obama walked in. I’ve seen many of my facebook friends wish for his personal (not just political) demise, or he be shipped off to Haiti, or even wish for God to take him too like Michael Jackson or Farrah Faucet. Oh, many times in joking, of course… Most would at least show respect for his position, but what about him as a human – just like you or me. There’s a big difference between disagreeing with his policies or direction, and tearing down and wishing ill on a another human being and his family…
… how about if Adam Lambert showed up. Saw the boards light up last year with praise to God for “making” Adam lose American Idol because he’s gay, even though his More >
thoughts on “Jesus Loves You…” by Craig Gross and Jason Harper – PART 1
Feb 8th
Doesn’t matter what you do or who you are: Jesus. Loves. You.
And there’s the summery of the book. See ya!!
Just kidding… well in a way I am. I wanted to pull a few quotes and thoughts from the book I liked (and make a few comments if needed), but essentially that is it – Jesus Loves You (hence the title
).
The book is broken up into 10 chapters, or the stories of 10 different types of people the authors are with. They tell stories of their relationships with each type of person and why Jesus loves them (they do say over and over that Jesus loves everyone, it just so happens that the book takes a look at these 10 types specifically). Here’s the stories/chapters…
- Jesus Loves the:
- …Bitter and Betrayed
- … the Disconnected
- … Broken
- … Forgotten
- … Skeptic
- … Glutton
- … Crook
- … Outcast
- … Porn Star
- … Religious
After finishing the book one of my first thoughts was… “in the circles I grew up in and still to this day somewhat hang out in – many of them would think that there is More >
“Someone who Understands” – New XXXChurch.com Article
Jan 13th

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Here is my current article on the XXXChurch called “Someone who Understands”. It’s under the Couple’s section of the blog. Or you can just read it below…
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Someone Who Understands
My wife and I have a 19-month-old boy.
He is just starting the throwing tantrums and taking swings at people stage, and gets really frustrated when he doesn’t get what he wants. Man it sucks when he throws a tantrum or takes a swing at you. And it’s even more embarrassing when it happens in public. We love him so much, but it’s still a bummer part of this stage.
So we got to talking with another Mom of a toddler in our church. And she started talking about how her daughter was doing some of the very same things our boy was doing.
And there it was…
Someone who understands.
Someone who knows what you are going through.
And that’s what we need… at least someone who has been in your shoes. Someone who has felt and experienced what you have thought, felt and been through.
And it got me thinking about all of this too…
But not just for those of us who struggle with porn and sexual vices. No, there are also those who are affected because of us – who don’t feel like anyone understands. I’ve been grateful for a few of the wives/girlfriends who have been honest enough with us to say, “I don’t feel like anyone understands what I am going through, and what we are going through together. I feel like all of my friends have husbands/boyfriends who don’t struggle. Or at least they don’t talk about it.”
You want to know that someone understands.
That someone has been there… or is there.
You want to know there is hope. There is light amidst the dark.
That you are not the only one who has ever experienced this…
… that you are not alone.
We’re out there. Find someone who can walk with you. Find people, who are or have been there. I promise others are out there. There are others like us. Not everyone hides their stuff. And if they don’t have stuff in this area, I bet they can at least understand what it’s like to struggle with something – if not point you in the direction of someone who does understand. And if they don’t understand or don’t struggle with anything… um, sure!
Glad to be part of a community here that understands…
… it’s nice to not be alone.
Don’t struggle in silence. I don’t believe God ever intended us to struggle in silence and isolation.
We’re here…
HE is here.
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my “Avatar” experience…
Jan 3rd
like so many others… I went to see “Avatar” this week.
I had heard from a few of my friends what an amazing movie it was. I had also heard from a few other people, that I should be wary of it/or not see it at all, because it teaches “Pantheism” (and we realize we can’t interact with stuff that teaches something different from our faith… we call that “discernment”
) Please don’t get me wrong, I do believe in discernment (Ex: I stay away from the “American Pie” movies – they just aren’t the right movies for me to watch), but a movie here about a different belief system didn’t keep me away.
So here’s a couple of quick thoughts as I experienced this movie:
- The Experience: It was a cinematic experience unlike I have ever had (we saw it in 3-D at the IMAX). The colors, creations and flow of the movie was amazing. 2 hours and 40 minutes went by in what felt like 15 minutes. It was an experience… an amazing one! (if I wasn’t very clear… I thought it was quite the “experience”!!!)
- The Story: I had read an article ahead of time saying it was repackaged Pantheism. Not sure what they meant by repackaged, it was pretty blatent in it’s story of Pantheism (the view that everything is part of an all-encompassing immanent God and that the Universe (Nature) and God are equivalent), no hiding here. As a Christian I do have a little different take and belief of God and Nature; I do believe in a personal God… I do believe in Jesus as savior… I do believe God created everything, not just exists in nature…. But I also thought their was some beauty in the story. I know I will probably get criticized by my conservative buddies for saying that, “How can there be any beauty in a story that’s wrong/false…?”, but the love story woven in between two of the main characters was pretty cool. And the way Na’vi people banded together and lived as a community was awesome too. And I loved the conscience and actions of a few of the humans realizing obliterating the land and the Na’vi people for their own consumption was just wrong…all these could be a few lessons that could apply to us now in real life. Yes, I don’t subscribe to the Pantheistic belief, but the story kept me interested and engaged the whole time.
- The Graphics/Colors: Unreal is all I can say… So, so cool. A+++
- Overall: Glad we saw it, was worth every minute. We got to see it with a few friends/family. I look forward to the conversations with people about it. Whatever other peoples’ views are on Pantheism or Christianity or whatever, it should be pretty fun to interact with those who see it. I give it an “A” for the experience alone. My hope for the Christian community is that we will be there to discuss and listen to the stories and beliefs of those around us and be able to respectfully and lovingly discuss the themes of the story. I recommend seeing it if you feel comfortable doing so!!
Other thoughts about the movie??? Have you seen it? What did you think?
Time article on “Advent Conspiracy”
Dec 16th
I posted a link to this article on my Facebook page already today… and have gotten a few great comments so far. Thought I’d throw it down on here as well.
Below is an article written by Time Magazine on the Advent Conspiracy movement.
Take a glance and let us know what you think…?
Good stuff? Too crippling to the economy or those in need of people to buy things – so they can survive and pay the bills? Is saying Merry Christmas, not Happy Holidays really too important to not fight companies about? Other thoughts?
Christian Group Launches New Attack on Christmas Commercialism
AMY SULLIVAN / WASHINGTON – Tue Dec 15, 3:10 am ET
If it’s December, then there must be frost in the air, gingerbread in the oven, and … right on time, Bill O’Reilly and the other defenders of Christmas bemoaning the prevalence of “Happy Holidays” – rather than “Merry Christmas” – greetings.
There’s a war on Christmas, O’Reilly recently reminded viewers, driven by those who “loathe the baby Jesus.” This season, a holiday-dÉcor company is marketing the CHRIST-mas Tree, a bushy artificial tree with a giant cross where the trunk should be. And the Colorado-based Focus on the Family is continuing its Stand for Christmas campaign to highlight the offenses of Christmas-denying retailers. The campaign was launched, according to its website, because “citizens across the nation were growing dissatisfied with the tendency of corporations to omit references to Christmas from holiday promotions.” (See TIME’s photoessay “Have a Very Ridiculous Christmas.”)
But to a growing group of Christians, this focus on the commercial aspect of Christmas is itself the greatest threat to one of Christianity’s holiest days. “It’s the shopping, the going into debt, the worrying that if I don’t spend enough money, someone will think I don’t love them,” says Portland pastor Rick McKinley. “Christians get all bent out of shape over the fact that someone didn’t say ‘Merry Christmas’ when I walked into the store. But why are we expecting the store to tell our story? That’s just ridiculous.”
McKinley is one of the leaders of an effort to do away with the frenzied activity and extravagant gift-giving of a commercial Christmas. Through a savvy viral video and marketing effort, the so-called Advent Conspiracy movement has exploded. Hundreds of churches on four continents and in at least 17 countries have signed up to participate. The Advent Conspiracy video has been viewed more than a million times on YouTube and the movement boasts nearly 45,000 fans on Facebook. Baseball superstar Albert Pujols is a supporter – he spoke at a church event in St. Louis to endorse the effort. (See TIME’s video “Bethlehem’s Complicated Christmas.”)
In the past four years, Advent Conspiracy churches have donated millions of dollars to dig wells in developing countries through Living Water International and other organizations. McKinley likes to point out that a fraction of the money Americans spend at retailers in the month of December could supply the entire world with clean water. If more Christians changed how they thought about giving at Christmas, he argues, the holiday could be transformative in a religious and practical sense.
The idea for their own war on Christmas came to McKinley four years ago, when he was sitting around with some of his pastor friends and they realized they were all dreading Christmas. “None of us like Christmas,” he says, adding, “That’s sort of bad if you’re a pastor.” Instead of helping their congregations focus on the season of Advent and prepare to celebrate the birth of Christ, the pastors found themselves competing with a secular consumerism that made December the hardest time to make their message heard.
So McKinley and his friends decided to try a radical experiment. They urged congregants to spend less on presents for friends and family, and to consider donating some of the money they saved as a result. At first, church members weren’t quite sure how to react. “Some people were terrified,” remembers McKinley. “They said, ‘My gosh, you’re ruining Christmas. What do we tell our kids?’” The pastors had to reassure people that they weren’t advocating a Grinchy no-gifts kind of Christmas, but rather one in which people spent a little less and thought a little more, expressing their love through something more meaningful than a gift card. Once church members adjusted to this new conception of Christmas, they found that they loved it. Many, in fact, seemed relieved to be given permission to slow down and buy less. (Read “A Brief History of ‘The War on Christmas’”)
In many ways, the Advent Conspiracy movement has appropriated some of the traditional arguments of the conservative Christians who see themselves as defenders of Christmas. A popular rallying cry of the foot soldiers in the war on Christmas is, “Jesus is the reason for the season.” Often, however, it seems that being able to score a half-price Nintendo DSi and a “Merry Christmas” from the checkout clerk is the real prize. The Religious Right has spent decades casting secular culture as the enemy. And yet instead of critiquing the values of the consumer marketplace, many conservative Christians have embraced it as the battleground they seek to reclaim.
A movement like the Advent Conspiracy is countercultural on two fronts – not just fighting the secular idea that Christmas is a month-long shopping and decorating ritual, but the powerful conservative notion that the holiday requires acknowledgement from the nation’s retailers to be truly meaningful. It’s not easy, says one youth pastor whose church is part of the Advent Conspiracy. “When you start jacking with people’s idea of what Christmas is and you start to go against this $450 billion machine of materialism and consumerism, it really messes with people,” he explains. “It takes a lot of patience to say there’s a different way – Christmas doesn’t have to be like this.”
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“Deep Church” by Jim Belcher… beginning thoughts.
Nov 16th

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As usual, Kevin, has me reading a book with him that he really thinks is great.
This book is called, “Deep Church” by Jim Belcher, and seeks to take a look at the discussion (or sometimes worse, the fight) between the Emerging and Tradition sides in Evangelical Christianity. His premise is they might be a third way actually… beyond these to sides of the coin, and deeper.
I’m only 3 chapters in, so this will probably be brief – but there is something that has consumed me more than anything else in this book…
It is the author’s desire and repeated statements of the necessity of these two groups to come together, learn from one another, walk together and be one in spirit. The author makes a point of asking how we can be Christians, but be unwilling to work together or love one another… therefore negating what Jesus says when He says, “As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:34-35).
The normal response to the love thing I hear from each side is:
- Traditionalist’s: “Loving does not mean letting everything go and not telling someone where they are wrong. We can’t just let Heresy continue under the guise of love. Emerging people want all happineess, good feelings and emotions – with no substance. Love is standing on truth and correcting people as much as it’s about embracing people, if not more so…”
- Emerging’s: “All we ever get from the “Mainstream Church” is we are so wrong. You’ve got to hit ‘em with the truth and get hands raised or the sinners prayer prayed (that doesn’t mean there life has to change by the way, just as long as we get them to church and get them to receive their fire insurance), but where is the love and grace and letting people be who they are. What’s wrong with good feelings and emotions, I believe in truth, but my truth may not be someone else’s truth. It’s not my job to tell everyone where they are wrong… isn’t that God’s job?”
So we’ve got the gate-keepers of heaven (Traditionalists) on one side, and the feel good, it’s all good lovers (Emerging) on the other side…
How do we ever bridge the gap…?
Seriously, how do these two groups come together and share the truly, all-incompasing “Good News” that Jesus offers (not just “good truth” or “good feelings”)? Or do they really need to? I have heard way too often, at least subtly, that the Traditionalists aren’t even sure most Emerging’s are Christians and so don’t see how they need to line up with Heretics – cause isn’t that who they are battling… Heretics? And the Emergings can’t figure out why they need to align with Traditionalists who have butchered the Gospel and made the Good News into a prayer, and church into a show where you come to hear one guy monologue for awhile and who kick out and oustrsize all the people who Jesus would have loved and hung out with…
Being in both camps at some point in my life, I agree with Jim Belcher that they need to find a way to come together. Both have valid concerns, valid points and can learn from each other… while being corrected and changed by each other. But when both sides can be so polarized towards one another, I wonder if it can ever happen – or if you listen to some of them, it really shouldn’t and can’t happen.
Maybe they can’t come together… maybe it’s just not possible. The Apostle Paul and Barnabas went separate for awhile. But I wonder if Paul and Barnabas still believed they were part of the same movement, part of the life changing message of Jesus (I believe they did). I’m not sure if the Traditionalist and Emerging’s truly believe or agree that they are part of the same movement (although my experience has been more of the Traditionalists don’t believe they are part of the same movement, more than the Emerging’s I am around – but this is probably just an isolated experience.) … part of the same church/Body of Christ.
What do you think? Does it matter? Is the author (or myself as well) way off on thinking this is important? Is this just another rabbit trail, side issue that really isn’t an issue in most parts of the faith?
Where do you start when sharing your story…?
Nov 12th

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When you share your story (if you ever do) with others… where do you start?
Do you begin with childhood? Or you’re favorite memory? Or you’re darkest moment? Or somewhere else?
Now, thinking about those who are Christians reading this… where do you start your story (or testimony for those in the older generation
…)?
The reason I ask is because I had a great conversation with Pieter here at YFC and he said something about our stories that made me think.
Why do we always start our stories/testimonies with the bad part (ex: God saved me from drugs, alcohol addiction, sexual addiction, depression, bad times, etc…). That is a big piece if that is truly where God met us, but what did God do yesterday? last week? the last year? the last five years? or so on? If we can’t see how God has made a difference yesterday, then has it been a life change and life relationship – or is it just fire insurance that helped you behave better for awhile. Not minimizing change, getting out of a bad situation and all that – just does your relationship go beyond that to include your whole life? (paraphrase)
I know my story always seems to start with all my crap and things I’ve done wrong… it got me thinking.
You’re thoughts?
Jesus Creed Blog: “Friday is for Friends: Rachel Held Evans”
Nov 11th
My friend Kevin sent me a guest post by Rachel Held Evans on Scot McKnights blog, “Jesus Creed“.
Interesting post, that I’ll copy below. But I was also intrigued by a comment made by Bob Smallman about her post. Here’s what he wrote:
Along these lines is a comment by Rebecca Manley Pippert that I came across some years ago: “Jesus always seemed to be doing two things: asking questions and telling stories. Christians always seem to be doing two other things: giving answers and ‘preaching.’ “All four are necessary — at the right time and in the right place. But we tend to forget that the God of the Bible was an extraordinary communicator; we ignore Jesus’ example of how to start conversation, and we jump in prematurely with answers and sermonettes before the listener’s curiosity is aroused.”
What are you thoughts/initial reaction to this comment? Do you agree with his assertion that Jesus spent more time asking questions and telling stories; while Christians give answers and preach more? Are all four necessary, or do we only need a few now? Other observations?
To keep the comments in context, here is Rachel’s post (there is also a link to it on the “Jesus Creed” page hosted by Beliefnet.com”:
Friday is for Friends: Rachel Held Evans
Friday November 6, 2009
Categories: Bible
Hello, my name is Rachel, and I’m a recovering Bible snob.
I haven’t always been this way. As a child, the stories of the Bible enthralled me. I believed in them the way one believes in dinosaurs, Camelot, Abraham Lincoln, and other magical things that happened once upon a time.
As a teenager, the Bible evolved into a collection of affirmations designed to ease my angst-riddled existence (a hermeneutical shortcut Scot refers to as “morsels of blessings and promises” in The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible
), and in college, it served as my favorite answer book (Scot’s “big puzzle” shortcut).
How has your approach to the Bible changed over the years? Have you ever found yourself behaving like a Bible snob? How do you engage Scripture analytically without losing your childlike fondness for its stories?
It wasn’t until my early twenties that I began wrestling with the blue parakeets–those troublesome passages of Scripture that didn’t fit my theological grid, that seemed primitive and suspicious in light of modern science, that bothered my conscience, or that appeared contradictory. I went from loving the Bible to hating it for all the doubts it raised in my mind.
Thankfully, and by the grace of God, I learned to read the Bible in a new way. With the help folks like Scot, N.T. Wright, and Eugene Peterson, I began to think of the Bible as a collection of stories, stories that God uses to tell a grand Story in a variety of ways and expressions. Because language is always shaped by context, God spoke in Moses’ days in Moses’ ways, in Jesus’ days in Jesus’ ways, and in Paul’s days in Paul’s way. This approach–(what Scot refers to as the “Wiki-story” approach)–helped me make peace with the Bible.
But there was one problem.
It seemed I had very little patience for folks who read the Bible differently than I did.
“He’s reading WAY too much into the relationship between Adam and Eve,” I’d think to myself during a wedding ceremony. “She did NOT just More >


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